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Again, welcome! - UtherSRG 00:02, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Golf (pool)

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Hi Michael. I changed the link in golf (billiards) from pool back to eight ball. If you go to pool you will see it's a disambiguation page, i.e. one which lists several meanings of the word pool, and tells you where to find various different articles. Since golf is a variety of the billiards game pool (and nothing to do with swimming pools or collections of money), I've linked directly to the article about the game, called Eight ball here. Fabiform 15:33, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Welcome! Glad to have you back, and on the WikiProject more specifically. Just out of curiosity, what are the "out of hand" problems you see with the main article? I agree it needs work, but would like to get a grip on what your particular concerns are. User:Fuhghettaboutit and I confer a lot, but you ought to be in the loop as well. I think it is inevitable that the article be summary style because of the breadth of the topic, but it is certainly nowhere near Featured Article stature at this point. 06:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Strickland

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[Moved from User talk:SMcCandlish since topic is about MichaelJHuman's edits not SMcCandlish's.]

Let me know if that's an improvement. I removed much of the reference to specific obscenties. I think the link to breaking of the cue, as well as Strickland on Strickland should fortify my points. I was unsure about mentioning of talking during matches, but I thought it was noteworthy...no other pro player I have seen talks as much during money matches.

MichaelJHuman 20:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As said at article talk page, anything that can be reliably sourced (i.e. from Billiards Digest or some other reputable, longstanding publication, not from "Jim Bob's Pool Blog") is probably good material; the Mosconi Cup article already sourced should probably be re-read for details, and honestly there's more said about him at the Michaela Tabb article, almost, than in his own. I think some of the details should be restored. I wouldn't bother with removing obscenities just because they are obscenities; WP:CENSOR and all. If they can be reliably sourced. I do think Strickland is one of the real "characters" of the game (though I think it is too PoV for the article to boldly state this without directly quoting someone notable as having said it). Wouldn't want his article to be too dry, if you see what I mean. By the same token I wouldn't add that he called Efren Reyes a "jerk" in 1982 in a pool hall in Tokyo, just because Reyes said so in a ten-year old interview. Picking fights with fans at televised events is noteworthy. Getting in the face of other players and the ref during World Championship Matches is too. Sharking on his own time while on the road or being testy at minor events really isn't encyclopedic. If it was, hell, I would have an article here, as a "notable cranky pool player". Heh. I think we should aim for the article to be colorful in direct proportion to that of Earl's antics, while always being sourcedly factual and not making PoV judgements. Even calling him "controversial" or something to that effect should be sourced (i.e. cite the controversy and those labelling it as such). These articles, esp. on Strickland and on O'Sullivan, and... it's coming back to me now — I think I was thinking of Marlon Manalo as another article with serious problems like this — tend to wander too far into WP:NOT#SOAP and {{Magazine}} territory. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] 20:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I've replied on my talk page about the Strickland pic (short version: If you e-mail me the details, to protect the source's e-mail address from spam harvesters that plunder WP pages, I'll be happy to take care of the licence tagging and other gritty details; I have some experience at the geeky/policy aspects of WP images.) — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] 19:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]