Talk:Executive arrangements

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What existed before

What existed in UK before ? For me this article could apply to any democratic form of local governement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericd (talk • contribs) 01:29, 14 September 2002

Hi, Eric,

It isn't so much what existed before, as many councils are still ordinary councils without cabinet or are only just starting to go into this type of local government.

The point really is that in a council of the traditional type, all councillors of all parties and persuasions would meet in chambers, etc., and would go through precedures in the normal democratic way - sometimes a slow process.

In a cabinet-style governing body mainly the local party in power would be represented in the cabinet and form the policies of the day with the democratic checks and balances being gone through by the various committees consisting of all parties, to whom all decisions have to be passed for scrutiny and agreement.

Cabinet style was first very much criticised as being less democratic than the original type of council but criticism seems to have abated at this time, at least, in the Croydon example.

The replies were mine, sorry got logged out somehow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dieter Simon (talk • contribs) 19:21, 14 September 2002

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I have added a range of citations and brought other elements of this up to date but it does need more work.Edhammond2 (talk) 01:35, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Elected mayor and council manager

I know the article speaks to the implementation and repeal of "Elected mayor and council manager." But can it be made clear if councils can have managers in the other arrangements? In the U.S., council-manager is quite common in municipalities, whether they have an elected executive "strong" mayor or an appointed first-among-equal "weak" mayor. Criticalthinker (talk) 11:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it appears that in Wales, the law still allows a "mayor and council manager" form of executive. But even apart from that question, a few others need to be answered:

1. In the Local Government Act 2000, what does it mean that "A local authority executive may not include the chairman or vice-chairman of the authority." Is not the elected leader in a "leader & cabinet" arrangement not the chairman of the authority? I guess I'm confused about what "chairman" and "vice-chairman" is refering to, here.

2. In either the mayor or leader arragement, the law speaks to "two or more councillors of the authority appointed to the executive" as being the cabinet. Do these councillors remain a part of the council with regular voting rights? In the U.S., in the "strong mayor-council" system, for instance, the executive and legislative functions of local government are separated. That is to say that the executive (a mayor and/or manager) is not "executive of the council", but a separate institution, entirely. A member of the council who gets appointed to the cabinet ceases to be a member of the council. Can it be clarified in full on this page the the relationship of the executive to the council in both arrangements (mayor or leader)? Criticalthinker (talk) 05:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone answer these questions? Criticalthinker (talk) 12:24, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]