Talk:Treasure Island

Treasure Island was one of the Language and literature good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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December 18, 2005	Good article nominee	Listed
June 29, 2009	Good article reassessment	Delisted

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Background

This entry incorrectly refers to the story paper serial edition in Young Folks as "The Sea Cook: A Story for Boys". However, every installment of the serial story was published as "Treasure Island; or, The Mutiny of the Hispaniola" by "Captain George North." The presence of this fundamental error on Wikipedia causes it to be repeated online and in print. Here is a sample image from the first installment. It was not colored as issued, some previous owner "enhanced" it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keeline (talk • contribs) 05:37, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

in this article's paragraph about Cocos Island (Historical allusions, Possible allusions, Treasure Island) it is correctly mentioned that an 1881 letter from Stevenson mentioned his working title "The Sea Cook, or Treasure Island: a Story for Boys." Whether or not this working title was ever ctually used, I do not know. The letter is quoted at https://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/opinion/columns/2020/01/the-sea-cook%E2%80%88part-i/ However, the quoted letter apparently makes no reference to "buried treasure of Captain Thompson," which is one of the main contentions of this uncited paragraph.Ramseyman (talk) 17:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Needs work

The writing is not great. Some sentences accidentally state the wrong thing.
Main character descriptions were excessively long... I've fixed most of that.
I cut the Minor Characters list. Statements about characters' natures and intentions etc were a bit subjective, nearly OR in some cases.
Background section has confused chronology... it says Stevenson was working on "the first draft", before serialization, or during, or after for the novel.
Lots of discussion of genres, fairly irrelevant once you've said what type of book this one is.
Big lists of minor allusions to events/works tenuously connected. For a book like this the lists will never be definitive or complete.
References in Popular Culture is laughably non-notable, it pretty much mentions any film in which someone says "treasure" or "island".

I will fix it all sooner or later, unless anyone objects! 😊

twl_corinthian (talk) 10:46, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article is oddly mostly not about the novel. Rather tangential and trivial database-like information. Only the "Inspiration" section is focused on the novel (excluding plot summary and list of characters because those are trivial). And the inspiration section contains a couple unsourced paragraphs that probably should be removed as OR. There's no analysis of the writing and themes and so on, barely anything about the publication history. How did we go 20+ years and end up with this bloated-but-empty article on such an important book. Compare with this version from 2007 which leads with a proper History section. It was mostly unsourced though. -- GreenC 15:58, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Characters

Side note to the above:

Every major character in Treasure Island seems to have their own Wikipedia page, despite in almost all cases not appearing in any other works except direct adaptations. These other pages mostly have the same problems as the main page - they describe the character in unsubstantiated terms, and list large numbers of allusions etc, which is a bit pointless and effectively just creates eight "child" pages that all need updating separately. Jon Silver and Jim Hawkins perhaps need their own pages, but other than that, are separate pages for Smollett, Trelawney etc. really necessary? twl_corinthian (talk) 17:49, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Long John Silver: The one-legged cook aboard the Hispaniola. Silver is the secret leader of the pirates.

Well, shoot. If'n I ever read it... 67.149.2.57 (talk) 16:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars Main Characters

Han Solo: Han Solo is the captain of the Millenium Falcon. He is killed by his own son, who is the grandson of Luke and Leia's father, Darth Vader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.2.57 (talk) 16:26, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Classic"

"Robert Louis Stevenson had set his classic novel Treasure Island in the towns of Birkenhead and Wallasey"

Is it ok to call something a "classic" as a factual statement in an encyclopedia? Isn't it more of a subjective thing rather than saying "it is widely regarded as a classic"? Is it against NPOV? I'm asking out of curiosity. Dornwald (talk) 01:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Illustrations

Some of the editions available on Amazon claim to be "The 1883 Classic Edition with Original Illustrations." I came here hoping to learn who the original illustrator was, or if the original edition was even illustrated. I see no mention of the illustrations. Does anyone know if the original edition had illustrations? If so, who was the illustrator? (The edition I referred to at the start has illustrations by N.C. Wyeth, who was born in 1882, so he couldn't have illustrated the 1883 edition.) MiguelMunoz (talk) 09:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]