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Requested move 23 November 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 19:43, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


– This reads to me like the primary topic for "attitude". Not a subject-matter expert, but I don't think anyone who types "Attitude" in the search bar and arrives at this article would be caught off-guard by the contents. DigitalIceAge (talk) 03:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 18:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. There's no evidence of long-term significance, and for usage although the page is the most popular ([1]) it isn't more popular than everything else put together. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That massviews analysis tool is extremely misleading and should be taken with a grain of salt. For (1) It includes entries that don't contain "Attitude" in the titles and which are only listed in the disambiguation page for reasons like non-notable songs in notable albums titled "Attitude" etc. (see Reload); (2) it contains redirects having "Attitude" in the title redirecting to popular pages (see Attitude Records, which nets about 1 pageview/day redirecting to Gary Glitter, which gets 2,354 pageviews/day); and (3) it contains TITLEPTM partial matches and out-of-scope homonyms listed in the See also section like Altitude, Attitude Era, etc. DigitalIceAge (talk) 04:59, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No obvious primary topic here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 13:01, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "No obvious primary topic here" "no evidence of long-term significance" Huh? Isn't the behavioral sense of the word "attitude", which this article covers, far and away more common than any other sense? Again I'm not an expert but there's multiple books written soley about this specific subject, which are cited in the article. It looks like a major pillar to me. DigitalIceAge (talk) 17:27, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Discuss If this is not the primary topic what is? (keeping in mind that many other articles are derivates of the psychological construct, e.g.) and that attitude was coined in the 1920's by Thurstone (does that count as long term significance), is central to Ajzen's 1991 paper on the theory of planned behaviour (which belongs to the top 100 most cited papers across all sciences). If we strictly look at geometric positioning (not even counting for natural science bias at Wikipedia) it seems the psychological construct is really the primary use of the term. Other usages seem really really really minor. I have no strong opinion but I think there is some merit to moving this article up in searches. Arnoutf (talk) 17:31, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:31, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: Relisting for more time for discussion. Note that there is a previous RM in 2008 that found that there is no primary topic. Raladic (talk) 18:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Psychology, WikiProject Engineering, WikiProject Aviation, WikiProject Spaceflight, WikiProject Mathematics have been notified of this discussion. Raladic (talk) 18:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per previous RM. The adoption of "attitude" for psychology is actually just a figurative usage of an already established English word meaning position and bearing. So the primary meaning actually cuts the other way. Tito Omburo (talk) 19:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – What Tito Omburo said. 'Attitude' is a common term whose primary meaning (see Wiktionary entry) is "The position of the body or way of carrying oneself", and from there it came to mean a number of other things in psychology, engineering, ballet and so on. It seems more logical to leave Attitude itself as disambiguation page. --Deeday-UK (talk) 19:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. As a colloquial English word, none of its technical usages is primary. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The meaning described in Attitude (psychology) doesn't seem to precisely match the plain language meaning of the word even in the sense of a way of thinking or a behavior. We can leave it to Wiktionary to describe the common meanings of the English word (though wikt:attitude could really use more quotations), and point to the various jargon meanings at Wikipedia using a disambiguation list. –jacobolus (t) 05:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.