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Connor Terry was the only man who ever inspired Bob Marley to write the song No Woman No Cry. He chose Connor as his inspiration because he help him to understand his greatness and how much the power he could overcome in time

Requested move

The correct title of this song is No Woman, No Cry, with a comma. That's how it is spelled on the back cover and in the liner notes of the album Natty Dread where this song first appeared, and it is also spelled with a comma on other Bob Marley albums that this song has appeared on (the Live! album is an example). —Teklund 17:09, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to move this myself, as I can't overwrite the No Woman, No Cry page.

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 23:22, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

not sure, if that was such a good idea. i had an album, where the title was called "No, Woman No Cry" --Rubo77 (talk) 09:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Haiti?

The Fugees lyrics refer to locations such as Brooklyn and Jersey. I'm guessing they refer to New York and New Jersey rather than Haite. Pretzelpaws 00:08, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

yeah i heard that version recently, they changed a lot of the lyrics from the Bob Marley one. Instead of Trenchtown (the place where reggae was born) in the Bob marley one for example they say Trenton a city in NJ.. or at least thats what i thought until reading the lyrics O-o EDIT nevermind it is Trenchtown.. but still the first verse is not in the original Marley song --insertwackynamehere 03:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sublime cover?

Where has it been confirmed that Sublime never covered this song? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DougJI (talk • contribs) 07:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I searched for about an hour and was not able to find anything that either said definitively that they did or did not cover the song. -pmtc59 21:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, according to a comment on this page, the "No Woman, No Cry" cover often attributed to Sublime is actually by Murder One. --Ezeu 06:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both Sublime and Murder One performed a song entitled "No Woman, No Cry". That's a fact. The true Sublime version stays almost entirely true to Marley's original lyrics and vocal melody. It is a cover in the true sense of the term. After Brad's death and after Murder 1 (not Murder One) came with their alternate lyrics version of the song and people started crediting it to Sublime, the tribute bands began playing the Murder 1 version at live shows, thus reinforcing the erroneous belief that the alternate lyrics version was by Sublime originally. It was not. The real Sublime band never, ever performed the alternate lyrics version. The true alternate lyrics version (the disputed version) is from the Murder 1 album American Junkie (1999). This track features Kid Rock. Just listen for his distinctively annoying voice. That's the key to deciding if the song you're listening to is the Murder 1 version or not. 96.237.234.203 (talk) 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC) your all dumbasses —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.69.139.130 (talk) 17:48, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marley and Fugees in the same article

Shouldn't the Single from the Fugees be on a separate article than that for the single from Bob Marley, the original composer of the song. If someone else feels the same way, please tell me and we can make that change. Also, I have the complete and accurate lyrics for the live version if you feel that those would contribute to the article as well.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pmtc59 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Usually, the cover version of a song is mentionened in the same article as the original song, unless there is substantially more information than merely mentioning that it is a cover. The article can be expanded, with subsections for the specific cover versions if there is information of interest about that particular version. Regarding lyrics, if you have the website where the lyrics are, link to it. Do not put lyrics here as that would violate Wikipedia's copyright policy. --Ezeu 06:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:No Woman No Cry.jpg

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Citation woes

I was wondering how much trouble it would be to cite where different folk have covered this song. It would prevent somebody from adding Helen Reddy or some other such nonsense. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 06:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What's this song mean?

No meaning to the song has been written about in this article? What's it about? Guroadrunner (talk) 01:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It'd be great if someone could add the song meaning in the article. --147.83.83.150 (talk) 09:59, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to the german Wikipedia the exact song title is not "No woman, no cry" (meaning if there is no woman, there is no reason to cry) but "No, woman, no cry" (i.e. an request to a woman not to cry). So the comma after the first "no" is really important. It is probably a song written by Marley as an apology to his wife. Sorry, my english is not good enough to put this into the article, but maybe this information helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.94.144.151 (talk) 11:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So, is the song title properly "No woman, no cry", or "No, woman, no cry"? Clearly the latter is the most precise, and reflects the intended meaning, but 1970s reggae songwriters are not always punctilious about punctuation. The article is currently inconsistent, and the title appears with different numbers of commas in different places, and that can't really help matters. Mooncow (talk) 00:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After checking several original album sleeves and notes it seems clear that the song is properly titled "No Woman, No Cry". As noted above, this punctuation is somewhat ambiguous and would be clarified by an additional comma after the first "No", but the songwriter does not appear to have done this and it is not for us to correct or improve his orthography! The "Lyrics" section contains a suitable clarification for readers of the article. Mooncow (talk) 02:11, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone just toss this into the article? I don't know if Wikipedia has a rule against this, but I always found it odd that many articles about books, stories, songs, movies and whatnot tend to leave out the artist's intent and/or reason for the creation of the piece... WHY they wanted to make it, WHAT compelled them to continue, WHAT they were trying to express by its creation... that kind of stuff. I know I'm probably stating the obvious, but sometimes the obvious--like the elephant in the room--needs to be stated. -- 66.92.0.62 (talk) 21:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can solve the mystery but I do need some help... In the 1980's on the music programme 'The Tube' the musician and TV host Jools Holland interviewed one of Bob's sons in an early satellite link interview. Jools asked whether his father (by then departed) had had any regrets. The son quickly answered that his father had regretted agreeing for the title of this song to be changed from 'No Womb and No Cry' to 'No Woman, No Cry'. The heads at Island Records had asked him to do this as they had had feedback that the European audience thought that the song was called 'No Woman, No Cry' and wanted Bob agree to having the title/lyrics changed to conform with audience's view. This obviously subverted the meaning of the song and would have caused the highly principalled Bob a lot of regret. The son clarified the meaning of the song stating that it about a woman who had to have her womb removed to save her life (a hysterectomy). When you listen to the track again the song makes perfect sense. I have written to Ziggy Marley (who I believe was the interviewee) at Tuff Gong Worldwide in August for him to verify this but haven't had a reply. Any investigative journalists or video tape collectors out there? My memory is good but we do need the evidence... Fountain Posters (talk) 02:48, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Forget the above folks. Just got clarification from the biggest authority in the land that it seems that Ziggy is fond of playing jokes on people and that seems one big wind-up. Sorry again folks. (I hope it made you laugh like it did him - and boy did he laugh!) Fountain Posters (talk) 10:40, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Was the Women International Year Song ??

Hi,

Since a couple of years ago, I heard from a news commentator that No Woman, No Cry was adopted like the song for the Women International Year celebrated in 1975 by UN ¿Is it true?Jaboolanee (talk) 04:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]